You’re speaking about hybrid war that was launched by Russia against Germany and some other European countries, but it’s pretty much the same that Europe was doing against Russia — or even more.

What Europe was doing against Russia was more than that. You were arming Ukraine. You were sanctioning Russia. You were at the same time financially supporting Ukraine.

What is that, if not a hybrid war against Russia?

They were doing pretty much the same. It doesn’t mean that I agree with that, but I’m telling you that there is an easy justification, right, if they really do so.

You need to put yourself into both shoes of Zelensky and Putin.