What I believe is that Putin wants to take control of entire Donbas area, and then I think he'll be ready for the end of the war.

I think that we are at the beginning of a bigger war, and that's why I was hoping that someone else would have done something so far in order to create a peace.

It didn't happen, and it won't happen soon, which means that we are on the edge of a much, much bigger war.

I don't know how you can win against Russia because I believe that it's not going to happen easily.

Because at the end, Russia is a nuclear power and it cannot be attacked by anyone easily or whatever.

We need a compromising solution, not a defeat of any side.

You’re speaking about hybrid war that was launched by Russia against Germany and some other European countries, but it’s pretty much the same that Europe was doing against Russia — or even more.

What Europe was doing against Russia was more than that. You were arming Ukraine. You were sanctioning Russia. You were at the same time financially supporting Ukraine.

What is that, if not a hybrid war against Russia?

They were doing pretty much the same. It doesn’t mean that I agree with that, but I’m telling you that there is an easy justification, right, if they really do so.

You need to put yourself into both shoes of Zelensky and Putin.