Going Underground
8.07K subscribers
1.92K photos
4.96K videos
3 files
2.56K links
Bringing you news from around the 🌍, we ask the questions mainstream media avoid. Hosted by Afshin Rattansi, broadcast globally. Our Channel: https://rumble.com/c/GoingUnderground
Download Telegram
Going Underground
Former Israeli negotiator Daniel Levy: ‘J.D. Vance’s anti-Israel comments are a SEA CHANGE in American politics, it’s GAME ON against the Israel lobby.’ ‘The fascinating thing for me is that J.D. Vance has clearly made a political calculation. He sees political…
Media is too big
VIEW IN TELEGRAM
ICYMI: J.D. Vance exposes Israel’s plot to sabotage the US-Iran MoU via paid pro-Israel influencers

The fact that J.D. Vance, a leading Republican contender for the Presidency in 2028, is openly calling out the malign influence of the Israel lobby does represent a sea change.

The grassroots of both wings of American politics are fed up of the US government serving Israel’s interests, and politicians are beginning to capitalise on this sentiment.
🥴5🤡4🤔3👍1
Media is too big
VIEW IN TELEGRAM
Former Israeli Negotiator Daniel Levy: ‘Israel is USING UP the US’ power before the unipolar world completely ends.’

‘Netanyahu harked back to some of these components of Greater Israel ideology that included something called the Iron Wall, an Iron Fist++ against all of Israel’s neighbours.

Netanyahu talked about that saying, the wall is dynamic. It moves from theatre to theatre, including these security buffer zones.

So to go to your question, can you do any of that without America? Can you succeed in that?

I think it has already hit overreach. I don’t think you can without America. I think it’s already proved its limitations in this war against Iran.

One thing that we might just want to keep in the back of our minds is that perhaps Israeli leaders are saying, ‘we can’t keep America doing our bidding indefinitely. We’re losing that public. America’s not the power it was.’

Also, we don’t live in a unipolar world of American preponderance, preeminence, primacy anymore. So let’s use American power to tilt things as much in our favour while it’s still there.

If we can do that, to create chaos in Iran still, if we can do that, to push as many of the regional states into our orbit as possible, then maybe we can manage significant parts of this Greater Israel Project even after America is no longer there to do our bidding.

That’s being attempted. I don’t think it’s going to work. I think it holds great potential danger for Israel as well. But I think we should understand that that might be some of what we’re seeing today.’

—Former Israeli negotiator Daniel Levy on the latest episode of Going Underground

Watch the full interview: https://rumble.com/v7d6u50-iran-israel-is-using-up-us-power-as-the-unipolar-world-ends-ex-israeli-nego.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a
🤡4👏3🥱1😘1
Media is too big
VIEW IN TELEGRAM
Former Israeli negotiator Daniel Levy: ‘Iran believes they can sustain the war LONGER than the US…unpopularity of the Iran war is UNPRECEDENTED.’

‘In absolute terms Iranian losses are greater. But in terms of what the respective systems can absorb.

I think they would still look at this and say the Americans can’t sustain this.

The Americans can’t sustain petrol prices at the pump above a certain level. The Americans, we can see, they don’t want to put troops on the ground with 20 body bags.

One is sure for the people who lost their lives, their families, is a terrible loss for them, but it’s sustainable. But not if that number ticks up and ticks up.

What does it do to the midterms? What does it do to the markets? So I think they look at this. It’s a very unpopular war with the American public.

Look at the grilling this week that War Secretary Hegseth took in the Senate. That is again unprecedented terrain.

Just months into a military effort against a country that has been held up as the ultimate enemy in America for so long. And yet there he is being grilled on what the hell is going on with this war and its costs.

So I think the Iranian calculation would be we can sustain this longer than them. And that has been an accurate calculation until now.

The short term is that you still have an American system that doesn’t seem to have a joined up strategy, doesn’t seem to know what it wants to get out of this.

Thought it was on a cakewalk here, and it’s been anything but.’

—Former Israeli negotiator Daniel Levy on the latest episode of Going Underground

Watch the full interview: https://rumble.com/v7d6u50-iran-israel-is-using-up-us-power-as-the-unipolar-world-ends-ex-israeli-nego.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a
👏32💩2
Going Underground
Former Israeli negotiator Daniel Levy: ‘Iran believes they can sustain the war LONGER than the US…unpopularity of the Iran war is UNPRECEDENTED.’ ‘In absolute terms Iranian losses are greater. But in terms of what the respective systems can absorb. I think…
This media is not supported in your browser
VIEW IN TELEGRAM
ICYMI, delusional Donald Trump on Iran:

‘When I went into Venezuela, everyone was against it. Then, two days later, they said, "Wow, that's fantastic."

A lot of people are saying that with Iran already.’

No one in the US, or the entire world, is saying that. In just 4 months, the war on Iran has become the most unpopular war in American history.

The US has achieved nothing apart from pushing the entire world to the brink of an economic depression, and raising global anti-US sentiment to fever pitch.
👍13💯6😈31
Going Underground
Former Israeli negotiator Daniel Levy: ‘Iran believes they can sustain the war LONGER than the US…unpopularity of the Iran war is UNPRECEDENTED.’ ‘In absolute terms Iranian losses are greater. But in terms of what the respective systems can absorb. I think…
This media is not supported in your browser
VIEW IN TELEGRAM
Israel’s Finance Minister Smotrich:

‘I don’t believe Israel has any interest in entering the conflict with Iran right now.

The current confrontation between the US and Iran is GOOD FOR US.’

Israeli officials are openly bragging that the US is fighting Israel’s war for them, sacrificing endless blood and treasure while Netanyahu’s cabinet sit back and relax.

All Netanyahu had to do with seduce the US into a war by initiating it, and then leaving the US in the middle of the most globally catastrophic quagmire in decades.

Israel gets its war fought for it.

The US gets its hard and soft power bludgeoned.

‘America’s greatest ally.’
🤮19😈7🤬2💩2💯21
This media is not supported in your browser
VIEW IN TELEGRAM
Former Chief of Israel’s Shin Bet Admiral Ami Ayalon:

‘I TOTALLY SUPPORT a vision for a Palestinian state, two states.’

Watch the full interview on Monday. Don’t miss it, follow us on X and follow our Rumble channel: https://rumble.com/v7da4u8-war-on-iran-is-bringing-iran-closer-to-a-nuclear-bomb-ex-chief-of-israels-s.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a
🤔6🤡2🥴2🔥1
Media is too big
VIEW IN TELEGRAM
‘Israel’s war on the Palestinians and Arabs is NO LONGER A JUST WAR, it will bring about the end of Zionism.’

—Former Chief of Israel’s Shin Bet Admiral Ami Ayalon

FULL INTERVIEW: https://rumble.com/v7da4u8-war-on-iran-is-bringing-iran-closer-to-a-nuclear-bomb-ex-chief-of-israels-s.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a
🔥9🙏3💯1
Media is too big
VIEW IN TELEGRAM
‘I am ASHAMED of what we did in Gaza. From Gaza, to Lebanon, to Iran, we won every battle but LOST EVERY WAR.’

—Former Chief of Israel’s Shin Bet Admiral Ami Ayalon

Watch the full interview: https://rumble.com/v7da4u8-war-on-iran-is-bringing-iran-closer-to-a-nuclear-bomb-ex-chief-of-israels-s.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a
9🔥3
Media is too big
VIEW IN TELEGRAM
Former Chief of Israel’s Shin Bet Admiral Ami Ayalon:

‘The result of the US-Israeli war brings Iran closer to building NUCLEAR WEAPONS because they understand that as long as they will not have a nuclear capability, they learned from North Korea.

They understand, this is the first time when they understand that unless they will have something, unless they will have a deterrence capability, they will face an existential threat.

Mojtaba Khamenei faces a reality in which he really believes that unless he will have nuclear weapons, probably, he will face existential threat.

So, many, many experts say that the results of the war bring him closer, to do everything in order to possess nuclear capability.

I think that we have to see it as a realistic scenario.’

Watch the full interview: https://rumble.com/v7da4u8-war-on-iran-is-bringing-iran-closer-to-a-nuclear-bomb-ex-chief-of-israels-s.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a
6👍2👌1
Going Underground
Former Chief of Israel’s Shin Bet Admiral Ami Ayalon: ‘The result of the US-Israeli war brings Iran closer to building NUCLEAR WEAPONS because they understand that as long as they will not have a nuclear capability, they learned from North Korea. They understand…
Why Iran moving to build nuclear weapons is more likely than you think:

A decade of negotiations with the United States has proven to be an utter failure as proven by the resumed war on Iran.

Iran signed the JCPOA and put the issue of nuclear weapons to rest, and adhered to the deal. What did it get in return?

Donald Trump coming to power, ripping up the nuclear deal, and assassinating Qassem Soleimani in his first term.

In 2025, under the cover of negotiations with the United States, Israel launched its war on Iran.

Once again in 2026, the US and Israel used the cover of negotiations over Iran’s nuclear program to launch a more severe war against Iran, assassinating Ali Khamenei on the first day, and bombing the country relentlessly.

The United States then signed the Memorandum of Understanding which reflected Iran’s strategic victories in the war, and only used it to rearm and reassess, before ripping the deal up and bombing Iran again.

While Iran has powerful drone and missile capabilities which can assure retaliation and exact tremendous costs from the US and Israel…

The truth is that the Iranian leadership has learned is that the missile and drone capabilities are not a significant enough deterrent to stop the US and Israel from bombing Iran whenever they wish.

The agreements the US has signed with Iran weren’t worth the paper they were written on. Now Tehran looks to North Korea and sees a country that didn’t seriously bother with negotiations and steamrolled ahead to nuclear proliferation at any cost.

North Korea remains a US adversary under economic sanctions, but it has not been attacked.

The war on Iran can’t continue forever, Donald Trump will one day leave office. When he does and the dust settles, and the US does not have an appetite for more war…

Iran may use that calm to finally move to building nuclear weapons. All the US-Israeli war on Iran has done is make this outcome more likely, not less.

You can assassinate all the IRGC commanders you want, and assassinate as many nuclear scientists as you want, but you can’t bomb knowledge and capability out of existence.
👌10👍2
This media is not supported in your browser
VIEW IN TELEGRAM
‘It was NOT a secret, Netanyahu saw Hamas as an ASSET.’

—Former Chief of Israel’s Shin Bet Admiral Ami Ayalon

‘People that are sitting today in his government used to say Hamas is an asset because Hamas is the only organisation who is perceived as a real enemy and can enable us to say there is no one to speak with, nothing to speak about.

The Palestinian Authority leadership did not believe in terror. They did believe in diplomacy. They signed on the Arab Peace Initiative and they were ready to negotiate.’

Watch the full interview: https://rumble.com/v7da4u8-war-on-iran-is-bringing-iran-closer-to-a-nuclear-bomb-ex-chief-of-israels-s.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a
👍6🤔4
Going Underground
‘It was NOT a secret, Netanyahu saw Hamas as an ASSET.’ —Former Chief of Israel’s Shin Bet Admiral Ami Ayalon ‘People that are sitting today in his government used to say Hamas is an asset because Hamas is the only organisation who is perceived as a real…
This media is not supported in your browser
VIEW IN TELEGRAM
You can be sent to PRISON in Israel for denying Israel’s official version of events on October 7th.

The official narrative:

The militia of an open-air concentration camp with nothing but light arms, caused this level of destruction on October 7th.

Thanks to brave reporting from independent media in the West and some Israeli journalists, who faced smear campaigns by the Israel lobby…

We know that Israel implemented the Hannibal Directive, where Israeli helicopter gunships unloaded their bullets and rockets on anything that moved in a mass application of the directive to prevent Israelis being taken hostage by Hamas, who would then be used in hostage negotiations to free the thousands of Palestinian prisoners.
💯143
This media is not supported in your browser
VIEW IN TELEGRAM
Former Chief of Israel’s Shin Bet reveals what he told Benjamin Netanyahu about the Palestinians:

‘I used to tell him, you understand that Palestinians are people, but you do not see them as a people. And they see themselves as a people who deserve a self-determination.

So they will fight. You will not win against Palestinians as long as you will not offer them a better future.

I told him the worst enemy is the enemy that he feels that he has nothing to lose. Because if he has nothing to lose, you lose the whole concept of deterrence.’

Watch the full interview: https://rumble.com/v7da4u8-war-on-iran-is-bringing-iran-closer-to-a-nuclear-bomb-ex-chief-of-israels-s.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a
9👍3
Going Underground
Former Chief of Israel’s Shin Bet reveals what he told Benjamin Netanyahu about the Palestinians: ‘I used to tell him, you understand that Palestinians are people, but you do not see them as a people. And they see themselves as a people who deserve a self…
Media is too big
VIEW IN TELEGRAM
Ex-US🇺🇸 President Jimmy Carter on Israel’s occupation of Palestine🇵🇸:

‘The word apartheid is exactly accurate…within Palestinian territory, they are absolutely and totally separated, much worse than South Africa…the Israelis completely dominate the lives of Palestinians.’
👌7💯3🔥2
Media is too big
VIEW IN TELEGRAM
Afshin Rattansi: ‘Why did Al Qaeda NEVER attack Israel?’

Former Shin Bet Chief Ami Ayalon: ‘I don’t have a good answer. I think that Al Qaeda had several branches. The concept of Al Qaeda, is that the future caliphate will start somewhere in Iraq and will expand into Syria. And they didn’t finish the job in Syria.’

Afshin: ‘Well they attacked New York on September 11th, 2001. Presumably. They just never attacked Israel?

Do you not find that suspicious, as a former Head of Shin Bet, that this organisation is one that Netanyahu was photographed at medical facilities on the Golan Heights with?’

Ayalon: ‘I know nothing about this photograph of Netanyahu. I know that Al Qaeda tried, by the way, to create some branches in the West Bank, in Gaza, among Israeli Muslims, but they were not accepted.’

Watch the full interview: https://rumble.com/v7da4u8-war-on-iran-is-bringing-iran-closer-to-a-nuclear-bomb-ex-chief-of-israels-s.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a
👍7👀2
Going Underground
Afshin Rattansi: ‘Why did Al Qaeda NEVER attack Israel?’ Former Shin Bet Chief Ami Ayalon: ‘I don’t have a good answer. I think that Al Qaeda had several branches. The concept of Al Qaeda, is that the future caliphate will start somewhere in Iraq and will…
This media is not supported in your browser
VIEW IN TELEGRAM
Prof. Jeffrey Sachs: “Obama ordered the CIA to overthrow Assad. So that started in 2011.”

Tucker Carlson: But why would Obama want to overthrow Assad?

Prof. Jeffrey Sachs: “Because Israel has run American foreign policy in the Middle East for 30 years.”
🥰124👌4🤮3🤔1🤬1
This media is not supported in your browser
VIEW IN TELEGRAM
‘The US and Israel thinking that Iran will surrender shows that they do not know their enemy.’

—Former Chief of Israel’s Shin Bet Admiral Ami Ayalon

Watch the full interview: https://rumble.com/v7da4u8-war-on-iran-is-bringing-iran-closer-to-a-nuclear-bomb-ex-chief-of-israels-s.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a
💯11👍2🔥1
Going Underground
‘The US and Israel thinking that Iran will surrender shows that they do not know their enemy.’ —Former Chief of Israel’s Shin Bet Admiral Ami Ayalon Watch the full interview: https://rumble.com/v7da4u8-war-on-iran-is-bringing-iran-closer-to-a-nuclear-bomb…
This media is not supported in your browser
VIEW IN TELEGRAM
Reporter: ‘Are you and Netanyahu on the same page on Iran?’

Donald Trump: ‘We have a little difference, but pretty close, yeah.’

Both Trump & Netanyahu share the same delusions.

Any rhetorical outrage from Trump and Netanyahu is entirely performative.

Israel owns American foreign policy and the Trump Administration.
🤮12👍2🔥2🥴1💯1