Senior Devops doesn’t know anything. It’s really frustrating

So, I recently started working as a DevOps engineer at an online shopping platform, and boy, let me tell you, it's been a rollercoaster ride already. The interview process was insanely hectic, and there were very few openings available.

Here's the kicker: my senior doesn't seem to know much about what we're actually working with. We're using GCP and Terraform for infrastructure as code (IaC), but they're clueless about even the basics. I'm talking about not knowing how a simple Cloud Build file is created or how it functions.

In our meetings, it feels like we're discussing nonsense most of the time. They're adamant about creating our own Google Cloud logs because apparently, using Logs Explorer is too expensive. but then they stumble when it comes to knowing which machine types are suitable or understanding the differences between them.

It's frustrating because there are countless talented, unemployed freshers out there who could bring so much more to the table. And don't even get me started on CI/CD pipelines – they're a foreign concept to my senior.

Has anyone else experienced something similar? How did you cope with it? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for letting me vent.

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how are all of you testing your ansible?

I'm currently undertaking a project to switch our chef to ansible piece by piece, for chef we are leveraging the spec tests which do a decent enough job.

in looking at testing ansible most people seem to mention Molecule but in trying it I can't really seem to find many examples as to how the default verifier "ansible" is actually meant to be written. I've noticed though that many have opted to use testinfra instead.

For local testing in chef we use test kitchen and Molecule seems to emulate that part completely fine.

Curious as to how all of you are managing.

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Fullstack dev tasked to do some devops : looking for pointers to learn what i should know.

Hello r/devops and sorry if my title is too vague, i'll enter in the details.

So, I'm part of a small dev teams, 5 people, and until today we were self hosting all of our tools : Jira for out ticketing system, Jenkins for our Continuous Integration and unit testing, perforce -soon to be git- repo. We're tech-savvy and can rtfm so we set up the vms to host these services ourselves, but it's in no way our job or our domain.

2024 is the year of the migration to the cloud for us as asked by the management. We already migrated Jira and our repo should be done by the end of the year.
I've been asked to look for solutions to do the same with our CI. The complexity seems a level higher as CI is not "static" in the sense that it needs to pull files, to have sdk installed to compile them (we do .Net6), to run unit tests on the result and copy it to a place where we can access it, all while keeping the interactions between Jira and our CI for version release for example.
And of top of that, there's the security which I also worry about.

I'm not tasked to do the actual migration, just to look for potential solutions, but I don't know where to look at.

Is it common to have cloud-hosted CI ? If so, are there resources you advise me to read ? Do you have an opinion on how I should do?

Thanks a lot.

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developer deleted heroku server and the frontend is not loading

so the developer I was working with was probably mad, and he deleted the heroku server without finishing the transition, now some parts of the frontend are not loading... i'm not technical and in the process of finding another developer. Is this easy to fix?

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Terraform 1.7 Adds Config-Driven Remove and Test Mocking Ahead of OpenTofu

https://www.infoq.com/news/2024/03/terraform-test-mocking-remove/


Hashicorp announced the release of Terraform 1.7, a new version of the popular Infrastructure as Code (IaC) tool. Terraform now supports config-driven remove capability, a safer way to remove resources from the managed stack’s state data. The new version also comes with mock providers and overrides, as well as several other enhancements in the test framework.

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I am not a senior and had a first interview with HR for a senior position

I am feeling nervous. I was approached by a recruiter as a Senior DevOps position. I am not a senior and told this the recruiter upfront. The recruiter just talked with the company and they decided to do a HR interview with me.

The interview went well and we will proceed. But I am feeling uncomfortable with the jump since I would be the first and only DevOps for the team. They have a Data Platform with high responsibilities and critical data and would be my responsibility to take care of the environment.

Now I am feeling a very strong imposter syndrome. For example. It is a long time now that I do not touch terraform and they use terraform. Same for Helm. Being the solo DevOps and to take care of the whole environment and also a role to be of very high responsibility sounds too much to me. I am feeling overwhelmed by the responsibilities.

Has anyone had this experience in the past?

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Containerized POS - Lipstick on a pig?

To preface this post, I'm new to all things DevOps but I definitely see it as the future of all IT in some facets.

We use Oracle Simphony as a POS system in our restaurants. Everything runs on windows. Currently we have onsite hyperv servers that host a ton of windows 10 VMs with Simphony installed on them. Then people RDP into those VMs from tablets.

I want to find a better way. I was inspired by Chick-fil-A's restaurant compute system
https://medium.com/chick-fil-atech/enterprise-restaurant-compute-f5e2fd63d20f

And id love to build something much more scalable, resilient, and overall better. Simphony can be installed on Linux and would theoretically move to cloud virtual machines or even containers. My only fear with that is ensuring the restaurant can operate without Internet.

I found this repo for a kubernetes vdi
https://github.com/webmeshproj/webmesh-vdi
But it definitely don't want to be using that in a production env

Then that brings up the question of, is this even worth it, possible, or am I putting lipstick on a pig? We don't have an internal dev team (even though we should) so it just seems a bit overkill since we use an out of box solution.

Thoughts?

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How are ya'll using ChatGPT or any GenAI tools lately?

Went from ChatGPT Personal to an Enterprise account a few months back and have been advocating for it within my company as a great general purpose tool for pretty much anything. I've seen folks really accelerate their learning on a lot of topics, and just be more productive as a result of it. We've got a few custom GPT's too that a handful of folks use.

We're now exploring Azure OpenAI Studio and Google Vertex AI and Gemini, but again, nothing is in cement yet. ChatGPT is by far the most "mature" (heavy air quotes) tool we're using and even that isn't that popular, I'd say 15% of the company signed up for it, and out of that group I'd say maybe 10% are using it daily.

Some areas I've found it's helping us:
1. Engineers writing way better emails. Really helping as a communications tool.
2. It's half decent at troubleshooting and quick and dirty scripting in bash.
3. It knows enough to be dangerous when it comes to AWS, GCP and Azure. With AWS specifically (90% of our shop is here) it's even helped me get caught up on a lot of new topics.

I can list more but I think these 3 are worth the investment. It's hard to hire these days and I think these tools really help push productivity from the folks who are using them. How about your experiences /r/devops?

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Can we ban the low-effort “how do I go into DevOps” posts?

I see at least a couple of them a day and the answer’s always the same. If you can’t be bothered to do a basic search of the sub then you’re probably not gonna make it in DevOps anyways; this field requires a self-starter that knows how to find information.

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Need a FullStack Developer for a freelance project.

I want to have a site/app cloned and result timing reduced by 10-20%. If any capable developer wants to do the work , then DM me for further details.

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Is there anyone who needs a Coursera Plus?

I will be inviting you to use Plus for a year (worth $399) on your email (corporate invites) at $39 and obviously you won't be paying me without any proof that you require from and before you are satisfied. If anyone is needy and actually needs it, can dm me. I'll help them!

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Angry about work tracking process

I've been in my career for 15 years. I'm at the most senior level I can be at for my role within my organization. We had a leadership change a few years back that brought some new processes that I don't like at all.

Entering time in a time sheet by project

Sending a weekly status update with everything you have done

Talking about what you did every day on stand-up

Recording everything you do in a ticket putting hours on it and marking it with a bunch fields for report generation, all data entry and tracking is done by the engineer

It's the last one that bugs me, because I've obviously already provided the info needed to management to track what they need to. However my boss is a self-proclaimed hand-off boss. He had someone create reports off the information we're entering so he can provide updates to management without really being involved with what is going on.

This makes me irrationally angry, and I wonder if I'm being dramatic or if it is actually an awful thing to hoist upon a team. There's more tracking than actual work. He doesn't assign work he just expects it all to get done, he doesn't even care what the work is really.

I thought about leaving but I've got a classic case of golden shackles, there's no way I'd be able to find the same pay with the way the market has changed. I'm thinking about just leaving tech. I also own a real estate business, but it's not big enough to rely soley on. 3 million dollar portfolio with 33 units, I pull in probably 8K extra a month from my business but I put it all back into continue to grow. Eventually, I'll leave tech but my situation currently wont allow for change right this moment.

Really just trying to find a way to accept how much of a cluster this place is or validate my anger. I have much more of an owner mindset, than a manager. I also prefer doing.

Feedback appreciated.




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How can AI integrate to DevOps solution?

AI is growing rapidly and I don’t wanna be exclude from it. As a DevOps engineer, is there any practical usage of AI in DevOps?

Can anyone share some examples that how your company integrates AI into pipelines, workflows, or anything?

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On Call worth the anxiety and stress?

Hi guys,

I’ve got an offer for a new role as a “DevOps Engineer” but this new role will involve on-call. The on-call consists of devs as well as cloud team members which is excellent IMO. The on-call payment is decent (I need to confirm exactly how much).

My question is, is the extra money worth the anxiety and stress I might face from a 3am call telling me that production is down? (Obviously this is worst case scenario but I’m assuming most likely a simple service or cronjob hasn’t run)

Has anyone got experience doing on-call in a “DevOps” position?

I’m based in the UK by the way and the team are all over the world.

Thanks

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Zitadel Experiences

Has anyone used Zitadel yet? https://zitadel.com/


We are evaluating it for both b2b (saas) service to abstract away SSO/Login for our users and also looking at it for b2c so we can create a generalized service that anyone can login to.

Curious on how people have found the self hosted option to be;

Easy to operate?
Easy to troubleshoot?
How hard is scaling it? (Looks like its mostly adding more replicas of the app + scaling the DB vertically)
Any big gotchas you ran into?

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Lastly, would you recommend something entirely different? We are in the market for a run it yourself system.

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How do I avoid having to do DevOps and seeing people complain about asking how to do it? Can we ban DevOps Post?

I’m a software engineer and I don’t like doing DevOps even though I do it being I work at a small company. I mean every question has already been asked and answered with a basic search of this sub. If you can’t search this sub then you probably should look into doing something that you like and make it some other unfortunate non DevOps person problem to complain on the sub.

Clearly this is satire: I see people complaining about it all the time and I’m not even in this sub.

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Reminder: There are no best practices…

…only things that have worked for other people.

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Can we ban people complaining about people complaining about people asking how to do devops or how to get into devops? This is getting out of hand

Every morning people send me messages asking stupid questions. “Why is datadog inaccessible”, “cloud trail says you changed the only root credentials to AWS and our pipelines are all failing because you configured everything to use root”, these people are pathetic. They don’t even know how to google basic things, so I ignore them. Besides, negative vibes stress me out - that’s a big “ick” from me, fam.

Already tired of dealing with these idiots, I put on my Tom Ford sunglasses (prescription with UV phasing) and sign on to Reddit. I need to relax and read some posts from my fellow engineers.

Instead what do I see! A question that has clearly been asked multiple times. And another one. And ANOTHER one. We are ENGINEERS, not DJ Khaled. This is getting out of hand.

Speaking of out of hand, my hands are literally shaking. My pinky ring begins annoyingly tapping the mahogany wood of my electric convertible standing ergopod ($12,000, covered my work since I accused my boss of sexual harassment when they asked me to come into the office). Do you fools understand the impact of your words? Of course not, you didn’t even use Google. How dare you? You have activated my nuclear trap card now, buddy, strap yourself in.

First of all, you want to get into devops? What is a dev op? You haven’t even searched for it yet. Get away from me, this pyjama jacket is Gucci limited edition (I refuse to shower until 3PM, when I will change into more customary attire) - don’t touch me, you might ruin it with your stinky hands.

Mods, this is getting serious. I have already contacted my local congressman, but he didn’t even know what Ansible was or about r/DevOps, so I explicitly had to threaten him and his family just to get my point across. Finally, he conceded to my superior intellect and agreed to send someone over to talk things through and find a solution.

Meanwhile, mods, I implore you - please no more of these posts, asking to ban other posts, which could be searched, or even posts which are searchable asking to ban other posts. With advancements AI none of this will be needed soon anyway!!

My good sirs, I tip my hat - and keenly await our democratic meeting of minds through which a solution will, inevitably, be engineered (because of course, we are engineers).

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Do you own the production infrastructure?

Hey guys,

I've been in DevOps for a few years now across different industries and the roles have been quite different in terms of ownership over operational resources.

At some places we would own the tooling, processes and standards but not necessarily own the resources that are deployed. Other places I've worked at it's basically Cloud SysAdmin using DevOps tooling which means that any infrastructure concerns are owned by DevOps (patching, upgrades, reliability of all servers/dbs/microservices).

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So I thought I'd see where everyone else is at and what you think the correct ownership model looks like?

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How many production resources are you responsible for? What does that ownership look like?

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Thanks all!

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Is it state of the industry that contracted DevOps is associate level at best?

This may be just a rant but we've a had a contracted DevOps service for a few years now. We'd hoped we were getting expertise and experience engaging this DevOps company and would be able to offload our DevOps tooling and support for the dev team to be able to focus more on our core business and products.

I don't think we've gotten any expertise. Yes some services have been put up. Some solutions have been implemented but everything is singular and with no thought to an overall design. The "solutions" are hacked together, fragile things that the person implementing barely understands. I'm learning things on the fly here so I may not have better solutions but I can see the inherent flaws in the designs.

Sometimes I push back or try to discuss our concerns and refine the constraints but I just don't have the energy to do this for everything. It just feels like we are getting associate-level work where there's enough knowledge to hack something together and be dangerous but broader strategy and expertise don't yet exist. I feel like I'm spending half the time managing, learning, and reviewing work than if I had to do it myself. The hope was to be able to offload work and I guess it half worked.

Is this a common experience? What are others experiences with contracted DevOps —on either side (client or contractor)?

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I lied to HR

Hey, I exaggerated to HR about my experience with Kubernetes in my last job. I made it sound like I was the main person handling all the Kubernetes development and pipelines. Surprisingly, they believed me and I cleared the Interview and they offered me a good job as a Kubernetes developer. But now I'm feeling nervous because I actually only had some experience deploying to EKS, and most of our deployments were on ECS. I have 4 years of experience in DevOps, but I'm worried about handling such a big Kubernetes deployment. I know I shouldn't have exaggerated so much, but I really needed the job. Now I'm not sure what to do because I have to start in 20 days.

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