Breivik Death Sentence Part 3

Philip Manshaus (22) has been sentenced to detention for 21 years with a minimum term of 14 years after killing his stepsister Johanne Ihle-Hansen, before he went to the Al-Noor mosque on 10 August 2019. He is also sentenced to pay compensation to the next of kin https://perma.cc/HWX8-VS45

So this dude got the SAME sentence like Breivik! NO SENSE! even if he killed much less people. Don't forget suicide in Breivik case ... https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/586

5: how Breivik got the sentence is just ridiculous
https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/646
to
https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/651
https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/341
to
https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/346
https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/458

and we don't need to forget how he acted
https://t.iss.one/DefenceTelegram/384
https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/255
etc.

6: related to 4-5

«I en slik vurdering må det tillegges vekt at særlig kvalifiserte tilfeller av finansiering av terrorhandling også vil kunne bli ansett som medvirkning til selve handlingen med en høyere strafferamme på 21 år.»

"In such an assessment, weight must be added to the fact that particularly qualified cases of financing a terrorist act will also be considered complicity in the act itself with a higher penalty of 21 years."

Dreier det seg ikke bare om rene finansieringshandlinger, men om medvirkning til terrorisme, kommer § 147 a med en strafferamme på inntil 21 års fengsel til anvendelse. Paragraf 147 b vil ikke kunne anvendes i konkurrens med § 147 a.

If it is not just about purely financing actions, but about complicity in terrorism, Section 147 a with a penalty of up to 21 years' imprisonment is applied. Paragraph 147 b will not be able to be used in competition with § 147 a. https://perma.cc/2X5W-27PS

Breivik Death Sentence Part 4

Etter straffeloven 2005 § 138 straffes terrorbombing med fengsel inntil 21 år, mens § 139 omhandler kapring av luftfartøy og skip. Gisseltaking i terrorøyemed straffes etter § 143 med fengsel inntil 12 år, mens straff for angrep på en internasjonalt beskyttet person, bl.a. statsoverholde, regjeringssjef og utenriksminister etter § 144, er 21 år.

According to the Penal Code 2005 § 138, terrorist bombing is punished with imprisonment of up to 21 years, while § 139 deals with the hijacking of aircraft and ships. Taking hostages for the purpose of terrorism is punishable under § 143 with imprisonment of up to 12 years, while the punishment for an attack on an internationally protected person, i.a. state official, head of government and foreign minister according to Section 144, is 21 years old https://perma.cc/R7TM-YJUG

Straffen er fengsel inntil 21 år. Grov terrorhandling straffes med fengsel inntil 30 år.

The penalty is imprisonment for up to 21 years. Serious acts of terrorism are punishable by imprisonment for up to 30 years.
https://t.iss.one/DefenceTelegram/470

Grov terrorhandling straffes med fengsel inntil 30 år.​3 Ved avgjørelsen av om terrorhandlingen er grov, skal det særlig legges vekt på om den

a. har medført tap av flere menneskeliv eller svært omfattende ødeleggelse av eiendom eller miljø, eller særlig nærliggende fare for det,​5
b. er utført med særlig skadelige midler,
c. er begått av en person som i kraft av sin stilling nyter en særlig tillit som kan utnyttes til å gjennomføre en terrorhandling.

A serious act of terrorism is punishable by imprisonment for up to 30 years.​3 When deciding whether the act of terrorism is serious, particular emphasis must be placed on whether it

a. has resulted in the loss of several human lives or very extensive destruction of property or the environment, or a particularly imminent danger of this,5
b. is carried out with particularly harmful means,

Breivik Death Sentence Part 5

Part 1 https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/658

A serious act of terrorism is punishable by imprisonment for up to 30 years:

c. is committed by a person who, by virtue of his position, enjoys a special trust which can be used to carry out a terrorist act https://perma.cc/UV3H-3AE3

So in conclusion: yes, is an huge complex story, BUT not for the type of the crime he did, more because it's complex to understand all reasons behind that ...

The crime he did was pretty easy to sentence, but since our laws make things complicate, all that got complicate.

When in reality is pretty easy, once you have enough proof and the sum of crimes done are enough to put a dude in prison for life / death ...

There are stories much more complex ... For sure 11 September was more complex, even because it was not just one dude.

Last point, between all terrorists, Breivik made the record of number of pages written ...

in few words:

Kriminalomsorgen i Norge er ikke rigget for en innsatt av Anders Behring Breiviks kaliber.

The correctional system in Norway is not equipped for an inmate of Anders Behring Breivik's caliber.

and this is the case for 2023 too!

Et stort flertall av oss er trolig av den oppfatning at Breivik hadde fortjent en strengere straff enn den han fikk. Vi har ikke dødsstraff i Norge. Vi har heller ikke livsvarig fengsel uten mulighet for løslatelse. I stedet har vi forvaring.

A large majority of us are probably of the opinion that Breivik deserved a harsher punishment than the one he received. We do not have the death penalty in Norway. Nor do we have life imprisonment without the possibility of release. Instead, we have custody https://perma.cc/G7QG-U3ZZ

Breiviks advokat har etter min mening et likevel et poeng når han peker på at behandlingen av Breivik skiller seg markant fra behandlingen av alle andre innsatte på forvaring, i og med at han har vært og er underlagt et regime som har ligget fast hele tiden.

Breivik Death Sentence Part 6

Part 1 https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/658

Han tilbringer omtrent all sin tid i isolasjon på sitt område i fengselet og har minimal kontakt med andre mennesker enn dem som er ansatt for å ivareta ham. Da har han også få impulser til å forandre seg.

In my opinion (journalist), Breivik's lawyer still has a point when he points out that the treatment of Breivik differs markedly from the treatment of all other inmates in custody, in that he has been and is subject to a regime that has been in place all along. He spends almost all of his time in isolation in his area of the prison and has minimal contact with people other than those employed to look after him. Then he also has few impulses to change.

Det er lett å tenke at det har han godt av. Det tenker jeg også. Breivik fortjener ikke vår medfølelse. Men retten kan ikke tenke sånn. Hevn er ikke en følelse som anerkjennes av norsk lov.

It is easy to think that he benefits from that. I think so too. Breivik does not deserve our sympathy. But the court cannot think like that. Revenge is not an emotion recognized by Norwegian law.

Han risikerer å bli angrepet av andre innsatte dersom han ikke isoleres. Det er også en fare for at han kan påvirke andre innsatte til å bli politisk ekstreme. Det er også derfor det er nødvendig å begrense hvem han kan kommunisere med utenfor murene.

He risks being attacked by other inmates if he is not isolated. There is also a danger that he may influence other inmates to become politically extreme. This is also why it is necessary to limit who he can communicate with outside the walls https://perma.cc/G7QG-U3ZZ

without talking about the parole story ....
https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/459
https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/469
https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/475
https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/546
to
https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/549

💡 Breivik request (2. person)
https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/617

So we need to change, not just in Norway, but everywhere! because currently our laws are just a joke!

Hitler gesture is an hate against 🇮🇱? Part 2

Part 1 https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/666

I forkant av Breiviks ankomst i rettssalen, sa Verøy at dersom Breivik har lært, så ville han ikke gjøre nazihilsen. Dette fordi det vil tale direkte imot hans ønske om å prøveløslates.

Ahead of Breivik's arrival in the courtroom, Verøy said that if Breivik had learned, he would not do the Nazi salute. This is because it will speak directly against his wish to be paroled https://perma.cc/9WTQ-Y6H3

Breivik: "I believe Europe should strive for: A cultural conservative approach where monoculturalism, moral, the nuclear family, a free market, support for Israel and our Christian cousins of the east, law and order and Christendom itself must be central aspects (unlike now) ..."

I support the continued consolidation of non-Muslim Europe and an unconditional support to all Christian countries and societies (Israel included), in addition to continuing our good relationships with all Hindu and Buddhist countries.

Forut for terrorhandlingene 22. juli 2011 utviste Breivik en eksepsjonell evne til å handle og opptre fordekt. Selv ikke hans egen mor merket noen endring i ham, selv bare dager før han begikk «den verste volds- og terrorhandling i norsk kriminalhistorie», poengterte regjeringsadvokaten.

Prior to the terrorist acts on 22 July 2011, Breivik displayed an exceptional ability to act and act undercover. Not even his own mother noticed any change in him, even just days before he committed "the worst act of violence and terrorism in Norwegian criminal history", pointed out the government attorney https://perma.cc/4V7F-7P8D

It is mainly letters with far-right content to fellow opinion-leaders Anders Behring Breivik did not know before 22 July 2011 that are stopped by the prison

Dommer Øystein Hermansen ba Breivik om å ikke gjenta nazihilsenen.

Judge Øystein Hermansen asked Breivik not to repeat the Nazi salute.

Means the answer is BULLSHIT! showed with Breivik story

High Security Prison Part 1

De fleste som dømmes til lengre fengselsstraffer i Norge soner mesteparten av straffen i et høysikkerhetsfengsel. De innsatte fa r i liten grad anledning til a forlate fengselet. Langt pa vei mister de muligheten til a ivareta sine interesser utenfor fengselet. Skal de opprettholde kontak- ten med familie, er de avhengig av at familiemedlemmene vil besøke dem i fengselet. Av hen- syn til sikkerheten, er adgangen til a bruke telefon og tilgang til internett svært begrenset. En lengre frihetsstraff betyr altsa en omfattende isolasjon fra omverdenen.

Most people who are sentenced to longer prison sentences in Norway serve most of their sentences in a high-security prison. The inmates are rarely allowed to leave the prison. In the long run, they lose the opportunity to look after their interests outside the prison. If they are to maintain contact with family, they are dependent on family members visiting them in prison. For reasons of security, access to the telephone and access to the internet is very limited. A longer custodial sentence therefore means extensive isolation from the outside world.

Well, this is perfectly normal.

It would be like allowing Breivik to get access to phone and internet. The disaster from that would be much worse ...

I høysikkerhetsfengsler er utgangspunktet at fangene gis adgang til a telefonere i 20 minutter per uke, hvis ikke «kapasitetsmes- sige forhold» er til hinder for det

In high-security prisons, the starting point is that prisoners are given access to telephone for 20 minutes per week, unless "capacity-related conditions" prevent this

Still hoping that such calls are controlled or controlled by artificial intelligence ... Otherwise we are like Prison Break ... were the girl said she would kill the kid near the guard, but they did anything to her, even once Lincoln told them that ...

Utgangs- punktet er at post og telefonsamtaler skal kontrolleres i høysikkerhetsfengsler

High Security Prison Part 2

Part 1 https://t.iss.one/DefenceTelegram/526

The starting point is that mail and telephone calls must be checked in high-security prisons

I Norge sitter i overkant av 3 600 personer fengslet til enhver tid, fordelt pa 59 ulike anstalter. Over to tredjedeler av fengselsplas- sene er i fengsler med høyt sikkerhetsniva

In Norway, more than 3,600 people are imprisoned at any given time, spread over 59 different institutions. Over two-thirds of prison places are in high-security prisons

Utgangspunktet er at gjennomføring av fengselsstraff starter i et høysikkerhetsfeng- sel.10 I et slikt fengsel er fangene underlagt et strengt regime, med en rekke sikkerhets- tiltak, fysiske hindre og kontinuerlig over- va kning.

The starting point is that execution of a prison sentence starts in a high-security prison. In such a prison, the prisoners are subject to a strict regime, with a number of security measures, physical barriers and continuous monitoring.

Den rehabiliterende funksjonen til lavsikkerhetsfengsler er langt bedre enn hos fengsler med høyt sikkerhetsnivå. Fengsel med lavere sikkerhet gir de innsatte en mer normalisert hverdag. Den preges av mindre innlåsning på cella, mer fellesskap med andre innsatte og generelt mer frihet til å leve en så normal hverdag som mulig innenfor soningens rammer https://perma.cc/3FPL-G3KB

The rehabilitative function of low-security prisons is far better than that of high-security prisons. Prisons with lower security give the inmates a more normalized everyday life. It is characterized by less confinement in the cell, more community with other inmates and generally more freedom to live as normal an everyday life as possible within the confines of the sentence.

For those thinking that going in prison in Norway is still holiday ... yes sure, probably better than many other countries, but at the end is a prison!

We can still understand the request, a bit like this second dude
https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/617
is saying ...

See next post

High Security Prison Part 3

Part 1 https://t.iss.one/DefenceTelegram/526

Related to the request
https://t.iss.one/DefenceTelegram/486
https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/546
to
https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/549
https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/475
https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/469
https://t.iss.one/TerrorismTelegram/459

Well, first which request ....?

Parole is A NO GO AT ALL! about more money to send letters too ... such prisoners are already huge expensive ... and letters are the goal to spread propaganda / criminality or sending "encrypted messages"

About gaming, well yes and no. Our first answer would be "NO, at all", it's your fault ... and this is what we wrote too

But let we think that with a prisoner mind. Now let we consider they have no Playstation 2 at all.

It would be pretty shitty. We have no problem to live in a 3x3 room for 18 hours each day ... if there is something we can do (internet, watching movies, etc.). If all such things are not available, well, then it's really pretty shitty! even if you are a criminal and you know you will not get a death sentence, because in 🇪🇺 is not available. You would remain in such room without doing nothing 24/24 365/365 for 80 years ... Obviously that suicides are high in prison ...

About Breivik is not really clear how how it looks in 2023 ... but at least he had Playstation 2 (when he complained about human rights). If he can use computer without internet in 2023 is not clear, but probably yes ... no matter what, a computer without internet is pretty useless, if you cannot watch movies ... or you are not a writer ...

So in conclusion, we can understand in part the request (but check next post), but would still refuse that too.

Han fikk delvis medhold da saken ble behandlet i Oslo tingrett, men tapte imidlertid på alle punkter da saken ble behandlet av Borgarting lagmannsrett i mars i fjor. Anken til Høyesterett ble avvist.